Overscan

Mia · November 05, 2016, 10:40:26 AM

I can make a 704 x 280 PAL overscan screen, but in AMOS the NTSC overscanned screen seems to max at 704 x 248 - 240 is standard NTSC so I'm a bit confused and probably missing something regarding NTSC - also I would like to get it to 724 but it cuts the display.

in fs-use NTSC @ 60hz is graphically smoother so I've started to use it, but found the smaller vertical a problem and don't want to change the display until I work out if something is wrong - any ideas?

Thanks

SamuraiCrow · November 06, 2016, 12:50:34 AM

Is your machine NTSC? If so, using a PAL booter may help it to recognize the screenmode.

Xertese · November 06, 2016, 07:55:39 AM

When working the width X dimension of your screen you can only multiply it by units of 16 the height Y dimension however can be any number of pixels you like
16 does not go into 724

Mia · November 08, 2016, 06:39:39 PM

Quote from: Mia on November 05, 2016, 10:40:26 AM240 is standard NTSC

thanks for the replies, but um, ooops, no it's not, apparently it's 200 horizontal for ntsc, so overscan is working at about 241. http://amiga.lychesis.net/knowledge/ScreenModes.html

actually, this just tells me I need a real amiga if I want smooth graphics again...

SamuraiCrow · November 08, 2016, 06:42:42 PM

200 vertical, you mean?

Mia · November 08, 2016, 06:54:22 PM

Quote from: SamuraiCrow on November 08, 2016, 06:42:42 PM
200 vertical, you mean?

lol yeh, maybe I do a popup screen for it :-)

Mia · November 08, 2016, 06:58:53 PM

The new oscilloscope is much smoother in ntsc as the fps matches the graphics card:

I'm open to suggestions of what to do - there are missing buttons at the bottom...

Hungry Horace · November 09, 2016, 07:46:20 AM

reduce the button border and the slider height if NTSC is detected?

Mia · November 09, 2016, 08:31:31 PM

Quote from: Hungry Horace on November 09, 2016, 07:46:20 AM
reduce the button border and the slider height if NTSC is detected?

hadn't thought of that, thanks, I changed the buttons to be 11px and it all fits.

Xertese · November 12, 2016, 04:14:20 PM

Guess thats me done then.

Mia · November 13, 2016, 07:48:51 PM

Quote from: Xertese on November 12, 2016, 04:14:20 PM
Guess thats me done then.

maybe not ;-) - do you know how to get larger than 704 out of AMOS?

Xertese · November 14, 2016, 05:40:47 AM

Quote from: Mia on November 13, 2016, 07:48:51 PM
Quote from: Xertese on November 12, 2016, 04:14:20 PM
Guess thats me done then.

maybe not ;-) - do you know how to get larger than 704 out of AMOS?

Resolution or Screen Size?

Mia · November 16, 2016, 07:33:51 PM

Quote from: Xertese on November 14, 2016, 05:40:47 AM
Resolution or Screen Size?

Looking at the Resolution - I've set the default screen and editor screen to be 704 by 280 so it is in "overscan" - fs-uae will auto zoom so it looks fine but there are extra pixels available up to 752 by 286 shown for the screen mode...

UPDATE:
in Editor_Config.AMOS I tweaked the XDI variable, the Limit Mouse settings, and Screen Display and MAXX variables - I got it up to 736, but there was a little chopped off on the right. I could send the screen position much further to the left but then the mouse would disappear - I think it's a hard coded limitation - somewhere in the amos.library source?

Xertese · November 25, 2016, 07:17:51 PM

Please refer to my site archive

www.ultimateamosproguide.co.uk/index.php/page,1

Lonewolf10 · November 26, 2016, 06:08:08 PM

Quote from: Xertese on November 25, 2016, 07:17:51 PM
Please refer to my site archive

www.ultimateamosproguide.co.uk/index.php/page,1

Out of curiosity I tried the link, but couldn't get it to work. Firefox 3 displays an error and claims it can't find the server. I also tried pinging the site, but still couldn't find it. Are you sure the domain name is correct??