MacVICE

[franticHT]

Right SHIFT-key does not have any effect on my MacBook, x64 version 1.22.9-r422_20080406

Hardware Overview:

  Model Identifier:   MacBook3,1
  Processor Name:   Intel Core 2 Duo
  Processor Speed:   2 GHz
  Number Of Processors:   1
  Total Number Of Cores:   2
  L2 Cache:   4 MB
  Memory:   2 GB
  Bus Speed:   800 MHz
  Boot ROM Version:   MB31.008E.B02
  SMC Version:   1.24f2
  Serial Number:   W880509UZ65
  Sudden Motion Sensor:
  State:   Enabled

...and the Retro Replay doesn't seem to work completely either. I can get into the monitor, but when trying  stuff like "D 1000" I only get a question mark as error in the monitor.

[MagerValp]

For me, the right shift key still doesn't work in the latest snapshot, but Retro Replay works fine.

[lallafa]

The new snapshot 1.22.15-r18800_20080523 has reworked keymaps.
I hope the shift key issue is solved there. Actually they contain symbolic mappings for U.S. and German keyboards for the first time

New snapshot also adds a UI for media recording...

[MagerValp]

Selecting symbolic US or DE gives me:

Keyboard: Error - Cannot load keymap `osx_sym.vkm´.

(btw, you can't cut'n'paste from the log window, and it disappears when VICE loses focus, which is rather inconvenient)

Positional works fine though, including right shift.

[lallafa]

@MagerValp:

In your current vicerc the old name is still stored. So either reset to defaults or edit the keymap entries in "Settings/Keyboard..." to: "osx_sym_us.vkm" and "osx_sym_de.vkm". The name of the positional hasn't changed.

[MagerValp]

Ah, yep, that helped. The log windows says that it loads the appropriate file, but strangely enough I still get the same layout (positional) no matter which I choose.

[lallafa]

hmm... strange...

here is a test:

the key right to 'L' (is ';' on a US keyboard) gives:

in positional: ':' (as this is the key left to 'L' on the real C64 keyboard)
in symbolic_us: ';'
in symbolic_de: nothing as the 'Ö' key found there cannot be mapped to the C64

another one: the key right to '0' (Null) (is '-' on a US keyboard) gives:

in positional: '+'
in symbolic_us: '-'
in symbolic_de: '?'

can you reproduce this?

[MagerValp]

Something's screwy with my vice keyboard config. Can't be arsed to figure it out right now, as the positional layout works (which is what I want), and it's unlikely to be a bug.

[MagerValp]

Would it be possible to add a toggle that enables/disables the joysticks? On a laptop keyboard there's no good way of mapping the joystick keys, so I end up using cursor keys + ctrl. Having to go into joystick config and manually select none every time you need to access the cursor keys is a PITA.

Or how do you people solve the problem?

[franticHT]

@Magervalp: I am highly disturbed by the very same thing.

[MagerValp]

OK, good, I'm not missing anything obvious then :)

So yeah, a feature request for toggling between joystick mapped or not on CMD-Shift-J, or something like that.

[lallafa]

In case you missed it: VICE 2.0 was released: http://www.viceteam.org

On the Mac side it includes the current snapshot for the Cocoa port which is for the x64 at least 90% complete. The X11 and Gtk+ ports are full featured as usual.

Sorry, the last suggestions here (toggling joystick) didn't make it into 2.0, but are on my todo for 2.1.

Concerning post 2.0 Cocoa development I'd like to move to 10.5 features in the UI. Namely the property inspector currently found in VICE already requires 10.5 to have nice widgets on the sheet.

With 10.6 Snow Leopard already approaching fast it seems sensible to have a support range of two versions in the near future...

What do you think? Are you all already using 10.5? What are there reasons to still have 10.4 support?

[grasstust]

In my opinion go 10.5, but leave previous versions for 10.4 users. It'll also save you some time focus on one version.

I'm a bit confused as to what is new in v2.0 of Vice. I see the new smaller titlebars and the inspector. Anything else?

I would by the way love to be able to use cmd+1 and cmd+2 for switching the screen to normal and double size, like the Quicktime Player.

I would also like a "favourites" tab, where you can put a list of favourites in a list, maybe with screenshots.

[MagerValp]

I did indeed miss VICE 2.0. Quite a few changes, including some bugs that have been there forever.

10.5 only seems like a good plan. I have a couple of 10.4 machines still, but that's just out of laziness.

[Naquaada]

I could live with a 10.5 only version of VICE. I also thought to keep a 10.4.x system, but I don't do it. There are rather much differences in the Unix base and permission settings. System-internal tools or drivers which were working in Tiger don't work in Leopard anymore. I had a program for Tiger that could change the short name of your home folder, but in Leopard this doesn't work. Does anyone a tool for Leopard which can do this?

10.6 Snow Leopard is only for Intel.