Somebodies still do not know for this new Project, perhaps this is the continuation of being famous Amiga.
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NATAMI Specification:
The Natami is no expansion card but a complete computer, compatible with Commodore AMIGA.
* GFX: SuperAGA chipset on board
Compatible to AGA but enhancing it.
* Supported Resolutions:
320x256 - 1280x1024
* Supported Pixelformats:
Planar 1-8 Planes, HAM 6/8, 8bit Chunky, 16bit Hicolor, 32bit Truecolor
* Video and VGA:
o 31kHz VGA:
Analog VGA SUB-D HD15 output
15kHz screens are automatically scandoubled (not flickerfixed)
o SVideo:
PAL/NTSC video output through SVideo connector.
15kHz are shown directly without conversion (SVideo quality).
All screens are scaled to 720x512 (or 720x400 on NTSC) as long as the VSYNC is 50/60Hz
corresponding RGB-analog signals may be available on internal (on board) connector.
o Genlock:
an SVideo input connector is available also. The background color can be exchanged with this signal.
This feature is not implementey yet and has lower priority.
* AUDIO: Paula style sound
4 Voices
From: 8bit Samples x 6 Volume
To: 16bit Samples x 8 Volume
* COPPER: including original AGA copper
* BLITTER:
Fully compatible with AGA-AMIGA
Speed of SuperBlitter is many times faster than AMIGA AGA blitter
comparisons will follow.
* 2D Enhancements:
In Chunky/Hicolor/ or Truecolor pixel mode the Super Blitter can "cookie cut" copy bobs.
Like the AMIGA Sprites, a "cookie cut" copy needs no blitting mask.
This enabled the blitter to use less memory and to work at double speed compared to planar blits.
* 3D Accelerator:
Texturemapping Blitter enhancement.
Provides Mipmapping, Subpixel 4 way interpolation, Light sources, Antialiasing
* Amiga backwards Compatible IDE controller supporting PIO and DMA
* Amiga Compatible Floppy Disk controller
* 2 PCI slots onboard to allow later upgrading (3rd available with riser-caard)
* CPU on board
68060 CPU on board for instant compatibility with AMIGA software
* CPU expansion slot
Allows upgrade to another CPU (Coldfire/PowerPC/Cell)
SLOT layout will be fully documented to allow 3rd party upgrade designs.
Official Project Page (http://www.natami.net/index.htm)
I should have posted this ages ago, thanks anemos, :).
this hasnt been released has it?
... typical
edit ;
the news is coming along very slowly... I'm doubtful will ever get released- the rate in which the news comes in is... slow ;/ ...
http://www.natami.net/news.htm
It might be released in 2011 or so. With a 060 and low specs. Beta and running almost no software. Yay! I can't wait!
Seriously this is another big ambition, low outcome project. Not sure why they even bother with it anymore, but I guess they are too far into it anyway.
Another dead thread revived, ;). Thanks Emu, you can tell he has just come back, lol.
I hope this project dies quickly, cause all the promises and blowing smoke up peoples arses and theres nothing to show.
Quote from: FOL on 08 Dec, 2009, 04:42 PMI hope this project dies quickly, cause all the promises and blowing smoke up peoples arses and theres nothing to show.
Well put FOL :D Even if they finish it, I wonder what specs and price point the final version will have. I bet it's more expensive than a SAM and less powerful while running... well... which OS do they aim for anyway? 3.9?
Quote from: TCD on 08 Dec, 2009, 05:10 PM
Quote from: FOL on 08 Dec, 2009, 04:42 PMI hope this project dies quickly, cause all the promises and blowing smoke up peoples arses and theres nothing to show.
Well put FOL :D Even if they finish it, I wonder what specs and price point the final version will have. I bet it's more expensive than a SAM and less powerful while running... well... which OS do they aim for anyway? 3.9?
Better stuff be on the market by the time its released, so whats the point.
Quote from: FOL on 08 Dec, 2009, 07:20 PMBetter stuff be on the market by the time its released, so whats the point.
I really have no clue. I bet they just release it because 'they can' now. Some people will still buy it...
Quote from: TCD on 08 Dec, 2009, 07:44 PM
Quote from: FOL on 08 Dec, 2009, 07:20 PMBetter stuff be on the market by the time its released, so whats the point.
I really have no clue. I bet they just release it because 'they can' now. Some people will still buy it...
Sorry, I ment, better stuff will be on the market by the time they release anything.
QuoteIt might be released in 2011 or so.
... You think? Im guessing at around 2012 or 2013, and thats only if it doesnt run out of steam.
IMO 90% chance of failure going at the rate the news is being updated atm
Quote from: FOL on 08 Dec, 2009, 07:50 PMSorry, I ment, better stuff will be on the market by the time they release anything.
I know ;) There is really no point in developing it, but it became an obsession. We'll see if they ever finish it
Quote from: EmuChicken on 08 Dec, 2009, 11:10 PM... You think? Im guessing at around 2012 or 2013, and thats only if it doesnt run out of steam.
IMO 90% chance of failure going at the rate the news is being updated atm
Heh, I really don't know when or if it will be released, but I won't be the 'super' machine they planned. People will pay insane money for it (if it is ever finished ;D). Makes me a bit sad for the zealots :(
Natami for all plz..
One year about later and the project looks like not moving despite the hopes all of us..
one one of the latest pic Natami board..
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Quote from: Anemos on 11 Mar, 2010, 08:00 AM
One year about later and the project looks like not moving despite the hopes all of us..
one one of the latest pic Natami board..
(https://www.ultimateamiga.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.natami.net%2Fgfx%2Fnatami16_lx_2small.jpg&hash=63b4b5ef4ce314edd9e71bda6843ada30d3875a3)
Huh? this is a year old, seen this before
Quote from: FOL on 11 Mar, 2010, 09:16 PM
Huh? this is a year old, seen this before
yeah? he said 'latest' not 'recent' ;)
..."vapourware"
Some news for the project evolves..
from Thomas Hirsch (Natami Team)
QuoteMaybe it is a good idea to create and carry a table:
SyncZorro Interface ... preliminary (PCI) version
Copper ................ fully implemented
Video DMA ............. fully implemented
256 colour regiters ... fully implemented
Video priority ........ half implemented
Scandoubler ........... fully implemented
Audio DMA ............. o
VGA out ............... working
DVI out ............... o
PCI ................... o
IDE ................... o
Quote from: Anemos on 16 Mar, 2010, 04:33 PM
Some news for the project evolves..
from Thomas Hirsch (Natami Team)
QuoteMaybe it is a good idea to create and carry a table:
SyncZorro Interface ... preliminary (PCI) version
Copper ................ fully implemented
Video DMA ............. fully implemented
256 colour regiters ... fully implemented
Video priority ........ half implemented
Scandoubler ........... fully implemented
Audio DMA ............. o
VGA out ............... working
DVI out ............... o
PCI ................... o
IDE ................... o
lol, cant be bothered following this anymore.
Natami news and new screenshots of new Amiga-Natami game here: http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=29779
Quote from: Anemos on 21 Dec, 2010, 05:21 PM
Natami news and new screenshots of new Amiga-Natami game here: http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=29779
Sigh.
"As you know Natami will be comming out soon". Yeh, when Summer 2007?
I think this project is pants.
^ Wut the fly said :D
I was all ears in spring 2008, but now it's just pathetic. NatAmi - Ifever :P
Quote from: TCD on 21 Dec, 2010, 08:34 PM
^ Wut the fly said :D
I was all ears in spring 2008, but now it's just pathetic. NatAmi - Ifever :P
lol,
Bet there aint been any costing, any production quantities etc etc.
Say I want to just buy one, bet it will be like Pandora (nothing against pandora, just the way its done), people are still waiting 2 years on and theres newer much better things out now.
I'd say they aimed too high without a proper financial background. Even when they tuned it down to more standard components they underestimated how much work was needed to get it going.
Oh and Gunnar surely didn't help either ;)
I believe every similar (big) effort has many problems and slows, there will be some disagreements between the group .. must be wait to see..
As a member of the NatAmi team, I can give a little bit of information if you think to ask.
The NatAmi MX board is being manufactured in sample quantities as we speak. It is expected to arrive in the hands of the team members in January.
I share the lack of enthusiasm when comparing it to the likes of the Retro Replay though. The fact that we haven't had a working prototype to test on except the LX board hasn't helped matters any. The biggest advantages we have is that we have a much larger FPGA than what the Retro Replay board has so, given enough time, we will be able to make the NatAmi MX last a little longer than Retro Replay's useful life.
About the only soft cores finished are the N68050 processor core which should blow the doors off of the Retro Replay as it will clock at 100 MHz or better depending on what clock speed the FPGA for the MX model ends up with. There should be an article about the N68050 coming out soon in a Polish webzine.
thanks for info SamuraiCrow, i hope the project stills as start theory (fully compatible with old Amiga hardware software..) together with new OS and the new high resolution games..
Well, the hardware still compatible with old Amiga OS also?
We're aiming to be compatible with Kickstarts 3.0, 3.1, 1.2 and 1.3.
Thanks for answers
this is important to me,and think for all classic Amiga lovers..(full compatible with old)
keep up the good work.
Quote from: SamuraiCrow on 23 Dec, 2010, 04:51 PM
We're aiming to be compatible with Kickstarts 3.0, 3.1, 1.2 and 1.3.
But, theres no pricing or anything.
They promised it, over 3 years ago.
Plus IF is ever sees light of day, I think theres going to be problems.
As I said before, better things have / are comming out.
So whats the point?
FOL i think he said before "It is expected to arrive in the hands of the team members in January."
is not for final users - buyers..
Quote from: Anemos on 24 Dec, 2010, 07:51 AM
FOL i think he said before "It is expected to arrive in the hands of the team members in January."
is not for final users - buyers..
So whats the point?
So these devs have a nice toy?
Again, it was supposed to be delivered 3 years ago. Surely they have a sorted prices etc etc.
I guess it's just to have something to show on launch day... whenever that'll be. Got told off on EAB for stating that I didn't believe they had something some moons ago :P I think they'll put a price point up once they get into negotiations about mass producing the boards. 2012 I'd say...
Quote from: TCD on 25 Dec, 2010, 10:08 PM
2012 I'd say...
Surely you made a mistake, ;). 2012 is when the worlds ends, its all on that film, ;).
Nah, I think you ment 2022, lol.
To be honest, I think its been organised worse than the Pandora project.
2 years on and people are still waiting for their pandora's.
Best thing is, people who already paid aint got a leg to stand on, as Paypal have a timeout to do a charge back.
I dont think is same project to Pandora.. Natami team never asking for preorder money or something else of pricing ..
Sure the project is going very slow.. seems to be not employing them time and not rush,ok, but this is not really bad. ;)
Quote from: FOL on 26 Dec, 2010, 05:23 PM
To be honest, I think its been organised worse than the Pandora project.
2 years on and people are still waiting for their pandora's.
Best thing is, people who already paid aint got a leg to stand on, as Paypal have a timeout to do a charge back.
The Pandora team had to pay back all PayPal and credit card charges since it was illegal in UK to presell and not deliver in a certain amount of time. Those that got their Pandoras had payed with bank transfers (which I shouldn't have to say are not all that safe).
The Pandora team took preorders and the NatAmi team will not and have not taken preorders. The only one who has paid for a NatAmi to this point is Thomas Hirsch, the lead designer.
Quote from: SamuraiCrow on 26 Dec, 2010, 09:25 PM
Quote from: FOL on 26 Dec, 2010, 05:23 PM
To be honest, I think its been organised worse than the Pandora project.
2 years on and people are still waiting for their pandora's.
Best thing is, people who already paid aint got a leg to stand on, as Paypal have a timeout to do a charge back.
The Pandora team had to pay back all PayPal and credit card charges since it was illegal in UK to presell and not deliver in a certain amount of time. Those that got their Pandoras had payed with bank transfers (which I shouldn't have to say are not all that safe).
The Pandora team took preorders and the NatAmi team will not and have not taken preorders. The only one who has paid for a NatAmi to this point is Thomas Hirsch, the lead designer.
Sorry,
Ive just lost all feeling for this project.
... I'm in the same boat, FOL... It seems pretty much EXACTLY the same thing that happened to Amiga post-the-A4000 era when Gateway took over... and then ... that company... and then ... that guy... and then he promised stuff, never delivered... and then...
oh god, ... please stop teh agony!
I guess the best bet now is to just get a cheap pc... which will have a HDMI port in anyways, hook it up to the tv, load it with a usb keyboard /mouse... then hook that Amiga OS to it.
- the lesson of the day is ...
... If you can't get a job done, do it yourself!
I actually got my pandora 6 months ago! I bought it for £200 and sold it 4 weeks ago for £450. The reason i sold it was because only 900 have been made so far, and so few devs have them, meaning hardly any progress on software. I bought a PSP Go, DAB Radio and had plenty of money left over for crimbo, which will probably be used to pay for my damaged car after crashing it trying to get to Cardiff airport in the snow 2 weeks ago! Anyway, I would like to buy one again, but not until the progress quickens big time.
BTW, I saw Tron 3D today, story line was crap really but a bit of a buzz! 1st film on my own too as the missus deemed it too geeky for her!!
Happy new year everyone, Sonic 4 rocks!
Quote from: NickLoTurco on 01 Jan, 2011, 01:54 AM
I actually got my pandora 6 months ago! I bought it for £200 and sold it 4 weeks ago for £450. The reason i sold it was because only 900 have been made so far, and so few devs have them, meaning hardly any progress on software. I bought a PSP Go, DAB Radio and had plenty of money left over for crimbo, which will probably be used to pay for my damaged car after crashing it trying to get to Cardiff airport in the snow 2 weeks ago! Anyway, I would like to buy one again, but not until the progress quickens big time.
BTW, I saw Tron 3D today, story line was crap really but a bit of a buzz! 1st film on my own too as the missus deemed it too geeky for her!!
Happy new year everyone, Sonic 4 rocks!
Cardiff Airport, hmmmm, your proberly local to me, :).
Sorry to hear about your car, :(. It sucks when that happens, I remember hitting black ice when I was driving my mums brand new Escort.
It was'nt pretty, :(.
Think I dragged this way off topic with my Pandora comments, :(.
Sorry thread starter.
yep,in topic plz, here is The Natami topic
for Pandora : http://www.ultimateamiga.com/index.php/topic,616.0.html