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AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« on: November 15, 2009, 05:58:42 PM »
Hello folks.

Has anyone managed to get the AMCAF extension to work in AMOS 1.3? I have tried but it failed. I think its for AMOS Pro only.

Thanks, Kev G
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2009, 07:37:54 PM »
AMCAF is for AmosPro only.
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2009, 07:52:06 PM »
Thought so  :-[

Thanks anyway.
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 07:54:18 PM »
Is there a reason you don't want to use AmosPro?  I realize that the downloads area here glitches with 0k downloads sometimes but we do have AmosPro and the compiler downloadable here.
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2009, 08:44:10 PM »
I use AMOS1.3 because you can disable multitasking properly which gives you a speed boost.
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2009, 09:24:11 PM »
It is probably far to late for you to change, but I am sure there was an extension or something that made AP multi-task properly. I have a feeling it was on aminet.

[EDIT] I found it, http://aminet.net/package/dev/amos/AMOS_Patch
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 12:38:25 PM »
I think the Turbo Plus extension also has a few commands that turn off multitasking in AMOS Pro.
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 02:00:02 PM »
Quote from: skate on November 15, 2009, 09:24:11 PM
It is probably far to late for you to change, but I am sure there was an extension or something that made AP multi-task properly. I have a feeling it was on aminet.

[EDIT] I found it, http://aminet.net/package/dev/amos/AMOS_Patch

That enables multitasking.  He wants to disable it, Skate.
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 04:23:11 PM »
Quote from: SamuraiCrow on November 16, 2009, 02:00:02 PM
Quote from: skate on November 15, 2009, 09:24:11 PM
It is probably far to late for you to change, but I am sure there was an extension or something that made AP multi-task properly. I have a feeling it was on aminet.

[EDIT] I found it, http://aminet.net/package/dev/amos/AMOS_Patch

That enables multitasking.  He wants to disable it, Skate.

Whoops, once again I fail... ;D
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 04:50:19 PM »
Hi folks.

The Turbo Extension command doesn't really turn multi-tasking off in AMOS Pro. I think all it does is change its task priority. It does do it in AMOS1.3 though which is kind of strange but I think this is due to the way that AMOS1.3 was designed.

Thanks for your help chaps but I think I am going to have to figure a way around it.

Kev G.
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2009, 07:40:33 PM »
If you're going to disable multitasking, you're also going to slow down the system.  Normally the blitter runs asynchronously while the CPU is doing other stuff.  Unless you do all of the blitting at the beginning of the game loop you're going to spend a lot of time waiting for the blitter to finish its previous operation.
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 08:26:50 PM »
Thats a new one on me  ???  I have done lots of demos/games and I have found that you get far better speed results when you disable multi-tasking. The sonic demo that I did was only possible because I disabled multi-tasking and I used a lot of screen copying to create the parallax effects. With multi-tasking enabled it is jerko-vision!

However, I take on board what you have said regarding the blitter and will look into it.

On another note, I am seriously thinking of migrating to AMOS Pro simply because of the extra features and the ability to use the AMCAF extension. Maybe I will gain more speed using the AMCAF extension in AMOS Pro than I would by disabling multi-tasking in AMOS1.3.

Cheers, Kev G.
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2009, 09:11:45 PM »
Quote from: KevG on November 15, 2009, 05:58:42 PM
Hello folks.

Has anyone managed to get the AMCAF extension to work in AMOS 1.3? I have tried but it failed. I think its for AMOS Pro only.

Thanks, Kev G


It isn't possible to get AMCAF working with AMOS 1.3 without the aid of Chris Hodges (the author). Even then it requires taking the original source code, turning it upsidedown and removing the extra code which AMOS Pro requires (and makes things alot easier).
Even then the code may require recoding in places and I can't see anyone taking on that mammoth project or Chris giving up the source code (if he even has it still).


Regards,
Lonewolf10

PS. Sorry I have been absent lately. Didn't have the new URL for the forum and only found it by searching for the site on Google. I have changed my bookmark now :)

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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2010, 04:15:04 PM »
Quote from: KevG on November 15, 2009, 08:44:10 PM
I use AMOS1.3 because you can disable multitasking properly which gives you a speed boost.

Which command do you use to disable multitasking in AMOS-TC 1.3?
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Re: AMCAF extension and AMOS 1.3
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2014, 09:59:42 AM »
Hello KevG,

Still on AMOS1.3 or AMOSPro ?

I found this post because I wanted to found a way to disable completely the multitasking too... Maybe for coding arcade games and demos, it's better to use Amos 1.3...
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