I think Steven Hill would disagree
There was probably some politics involved that nobody will admit to. There almost always is.
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Quote from: Overclocked on January 10, 2009, 04:49:16 AM
I think Stephen Hill would disagree.
i dont understand this cryptic comment at all because it comes with no explanation as to what you are referring. (and i know little of and care very little about the history of the development)
However, regardless of any issues/problems that arose with third parties, over manuals/ guides / whatever, Francois was still -the- man behind AMOS, and Europress still needed justification to pay him for his development.
If they didnt see potential profit, they wouldnt be able to pay
anyone for a future AGA version, and everyone involved would require other projects to work on in order to make money, ergo end of AMOS development.
Like it or not, it's how capitalism works.
Quote from: Hungry Horace on January 10, 2009, 03:35:21 PM
Quote from: Overclocked on January 10, 2009, 04:49:16 AM
I think Stephen Hill would disagree.
i dont understand this cryptic comment at all because it comes with no explanation as to what you are referring. (and i know little of and care very little about the history of the development)
Stephen Hill was one of the co-writers (technical author) for the AMOSPro manual, wrote 'Amiga Game Maker's Manual' and I think also wrote (or co-wrote?) the inline help of AMOS.
But I don't have a clue what overclocked means with his statement. Just /ignore and don't feed.
Let's continue talking about AMOS for AmiKit and about the interview.
Quote from: Overclocked on January 12, 2009, 05:07:24 PM
If you dont know who Steven Hill is then you should remove those stars and demote yourself to Easy AMOS Beta V0.0.5
thanks for the comment.
Despite the assumption, I am aware Stephen Hill is a credited author of the AP Manual and one of the guidebooks as Spellcoder has mentioned. (I didnt know about the inline help bit however)
Perhaps you not notice the bit in my post where i referred to third parties; authors of guides / manuals etc... who else did you think i was talking about there? The AP Manual sat in front of me also serves as some help in this matter.
Quote from: Hungry Horaceregardless of any issues/problems that arose with third parties, over manuals/ guides / whatever
Nonetheless, it still doesnt explain your comment. if you read what i said, i didnt say that I didnt know to whom you were referring (i thought my post made it plainly obvious that I did, but hey) but rather to what you were referring.
I assumed there must have been some legal issue or some such you were talking about, but decided not to actually state, thus the first part of the above quote.
Edit: for self-control
Quote from: AMOS Professional ManualI remember my first glimpse of AMOS Basic, three years ago. A package popped through my letter box containing a three-and-a-half-inch disc bearing the label AMOS-1 written in biro. Ten minutes later I was completely hooked! All through the next year, new versions arrived on my welcome mat, and I never quite knew what to expect. It was like opening Christmas presents every week! There were many surprises along the way, including the AMAL animation language, but the potential of the system was obvious from that first disc. As the project drew to a close, I resolved to get down to some serious AMOS programming. Three years and several hundred programs later, I'm still raring to go!
It looks like Christmas has arrived early this year, and I'm even more enthusiastic about AMOS Professional. It heralds an exciting new chapter in the world of Amiga programming, and I'm delighted to be part of it. There are dozens of great new features, and I have already programmed each and every one of them. AMOS has provided me with years of enjoyment, and AMOS Professional promises more to come. So join me on an extended journey into the fascinating world of AMOS Programming. you won't regret it!
STEPHEN HILL
That sum's up Stephen's input into the development of AMOS... it arrived on his door and he liked it. As a result he was recruited to aid writing the manual, and wrote some third-party book(s) of his own on the subject (as he did with STOS)
STOS in turn, was coded by François Lionet and Constantin Sotiropoulos, once again with Europress (then still known as Mandarin) publishing.
From this, i cant see how Stephen Hill would have any say as to the development of AMOS Pro (or an AMOS AGA) at this (or in fact any) stage? The evidence still shows that it would be the choice of Francois and his Publishers.
which brings me back to my original comment:
Quote from: Hungry HoraceAMOS was a commercial product like any other. No profit, no development. I dont see this as a "cop out" at all... we all have to make money to live, and AMOS obviously wasnt a "hobby" project for Francois, but a full-time job like any other.
Which apparently Stephen Hill would disagree with.
if it is meant that he wouldnt like the decision... well that's life. Francois and Europress needed to make a living/profit of their own for AMOS to continue. If you mean that Stephen Hill would disagree that AMOS was a full-time job for Francois, then the statement definately needs explaining.